Dave Porter
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Hi Tic,
Most other major theme developers have been on the ball and have released WP3 compatible updates or they didn't need to as they thought forward to the new release - WP3 was available in beta and release candidates many weeks before the official release...
The main problem I have with Artisteer, is not that they have done nothing, but the fact that they do not keep their clients informed of their intentions...
cheers Dave
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Tic
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Hi Dave,
Yes, I agree that the communication should be improved with regard to update information. The Artisteer responses, "We will support Wordpress 3.0 when it is released" is vague and leaning on comes off as a bit arrogant.
I think a more appropriate response is somewhere between vague and specific such as providing a time window and providing a list of the particular features that are planned to be added.
Tic
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Ken Knight
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Hi,
I tried posting yesterday, but apparently it fell through the cracks, but I too am blown away by some of the posts in this thread regarding 3.0. People really need to get a grip here and understand that Artisteer is not a single theme that needs to be updated. It is a multi-platform theme development environment. What this means is that there are sections of the program that are common to ALL platforms and hooks are written with the application to pull from the common locations and insert into specific spots into the chosen platform during export. This makes the program very extensible, but also makes it very complex. Thus greater care has to be taken during updates to support a specific platform change.
My personal opinion is that if a new release is not supported around 30 - 60 days after the 'official' release of a product then you might have a problem. So it has been roughly two weeks, lets see what happens in the 2-3 weeks. I'd be willing to bet you'll see some changes.
And lastly, IMHO some of the comments border on childish..... " I won't use this product until it supports 3.0...." come on.. gimme a break. While it would be nice to hear a projected release date, I'm not going to flip out because there hasn't been one.
Regards,
Ken
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KK
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Quote toemon:
Will Toemon's patch work on the Mac OS? The instructions appear to be for Windows.
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chinola
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Quote KK:
Will Toemon's patch work on the Mac OS? The instructions appear to be for Windows.
i think it's worth bumping toemon's patch to it's own thread.
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Theo
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Quote Didier:
Works great! Thank you very much for posting this!
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Nubee :)
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I just installed the Artisteer 2.4 for the first time to build a test theme for wordpress 3.0. I installed the patch for wordpress 3.0
http://www.toemon.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=10 (great pdf attached to download in English to show how to install patch)
Built the test theme with menu buttons and uploaded to site.
I use Dreamweaver CS3 for all my editing. Uploaded test theme without a problem with Dreamweaver and edited the footer.php and style.css with out any problems. I turned on the Menus in the Appearance menu. Set up Footer in the Appearance menu and turned on sidebars for footer area set it to bottom position. Then I edited the style.css to accommodate for footer background image per instructions in pdf.
Will say it all went with out a problem!
Works Great :)
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Ken MacLauchlan
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It would be nice of the publishers of Artisteer to provide their customers with a development roadmap. Wordpress 3.0 has been coming for a long time with a variety of beta and RC releases to allow users and developers to keep in step.
So please Artisteer make a clear statement about your plans for properly supporting Wordpress 3. Please also give an indication if your intention is to tweak your existing Kubrick based theme or where you are proposing to transition to using a TwentyTen based theme.
Those of us using your tool to build websites want to understand the choices we make in developing website in the coming weeks / months.
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Brett Bumeter
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The latest patches from toemon (not affiliate w Artisteer I believe) are now located in their own thread here in the forums
http://www.artisteer.com/?post_id=137782&p=forum_post&forum_id=13
As I post this, I think Toemon is on patch 1.9
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2ninerniner2
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Quote Ken MacLauchlan:
It would be nice of the publishers of Artisteer to provide their customers with a development roadmap. Wordpress 3.0 has been coming for a long time with a variety of beta and RC releases to allow users and developers to keep in step.
So please Artisteer make a clear statement about your plans for properly supporting Wordpress 3. Please also give an indication if your intention is to tweak your existing Kubrick based theme or where you are proposing to transition to using a TwentyTen based theme.
Those of us using your tool to build websites want to understand the choices we make in developing website in the coming weeks / months.
Have you even tried the patch that is talked about here? It is at Vr 1.9 now and works flawlessly (for me, anyway) with the latest Artisteer -Windows and on WP 3.0 ... and the themes are BudyyPress enable-able and pass all 3 W3C validation tests :)
And to clarify, one does not build web sites with this tool called Artisteer or the themes generated by it; one builds it with WP if that is the platform of choice. There is a plethora of themes available from other sources.
Additionally, in addition to some of the very good points by Ken Knight above, please, everyone, keep in mind that WP is not the only platform that Artisteer generates templates/themes for. All 3 of the Big 3 CMS's that are supported either have (WP) or will have major new (incompatible themes/templates) releases coming out soon, i.e. Drupal 7 and Joooml! 1.6. And again, this product is available and feature synched on 2 operating systems! Windows AND Mac!
So here we have a program, available on the 2 major operating systems, that generates themes and templates for 6 of the major web development environments, has been updated how many times in the last year, and all for 130 bux ... a bargain at 3 times the price! :) I've been "doing this" for 30 years and I have to say that Artisteer is one of the best software values I have ever come across. Period.
Cheers!
Lyle
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David (Adeptris)
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Quote 2ninerniner2:
All 3 of the Big 3 CMS's that are supported either have (WP) or will have major new (incompatible themes/templates) releases coming out soon, i.e. Drupal 7 and Joooml! 1.6. And again, this product is available and feature synched on 2 operating systems! Windows AND Mac!
That is the problem, "one size fits all" is not sustainable, For Artisteer to keep everyone happy they will at some point have to split the product, they would know from traffic analysis which CMS products the main users are using and may have to focus on these.
On the 9th June they said 2-3 months, that puts us into August, and how soon after that will the WordPress bug fixes or for the other major CMS products and new releases follow?
The wordpress function 'get_settings()' in favor of get_options() and was deprecated way back in 2006 but it is still used in the Artisteer product, if WordPress dropped the function on the next release Artisteer themes created today would just stop working.
Post thumbnails were introduced to wordpress in December 2009, six months later and the themes still do not support these.
There is a saying "Jack of all trades master of none", I do love the product, but I have also seen many companies with very good products loose focus or overtrade ending in a buy-out, closure or another product taking the business.
Artisteer users should not have to rely on 3rd party fixes for basic functions, and we are not talking about enhancments.
David 
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David (Adeptris)
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I did not put that clear!
http://markjaquith.wordpress.com/2006/08/30/get_settings-is-deprecated/
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Rosemary
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2ninerniner2 aka Lyle is correct. Menus work fine with the toeman patch which takes a total of 5 minutes to download, install, and test.
@2ninerniner2: By "BuddyPress" do you mean "temlateer"?
Thanks,
Rosemary
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2ninerniner2
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@Rosemary -
No, BuddyPress (BP) is the WordPress (WP) plugin that provides for a total social networking environment "out of the box" :) However, BP need to modify the themes to display properly and there is an additional plugin that does this for any theme, including the ones from Artisteer, with or without the "Toeman Patch".
If you want, you can see this in action at http://www.pitbullhuggers.com/ , a site I set up for my oldest daughter. It it running WP 3.0 with BP and the theme is from Artisteer 2.4 with the toeman patch :)
Cheers!
Lyle
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Rosemary
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Hi 2nrnr2 (Lyle),
Thanks for the link!
Funny, I have a very sweet PB called Abbey. Your site looks really good! Is that the BP stuff in the middle column? (Member sign ins, etc.)
Also,
I have been unable to find a contact form plugin that is supposed to work with 3.0. What are you using?
Thanks for the responses!
Rosemary
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2ninerniner2
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@Rosemary -
Yes, those are the BP items (true, unfortunate initials! :) ) Why not sign up and post some pics of Abbey :)
The contact form plugin is Contact Form 7 and here is the link to their site:
http://contactform7.com/
Or, do what I did ... search Contact Form 7 from the Add New Plugin in the admin and install from there! This is what I really like about WP compared to Joomla! and Drupal ... can install third party extensions directly from within the admin panel; no need to first find, download, upload/install ... too elegant! Not to mention the update notifications when they are available (you're dealing with a dyed-in-the-wool Joomla! person here! :) )
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Rosemary
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I did search from the WP 3.0 dashboard>plugins, but it appeared that there were no contact forms compatible with 3.0.
So now I know. Thanks again, Lyle!
Rosemary
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Karl
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It whould be nice if the footer widget feature finds its way into the official Artisteer.
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Ginger
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I received a link to a updated version after submitting a support case asking about Wordpress 3.0. I believe they are slowly testing it out before releasing it.
The menu thing appears to have been fixed now.
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Ginger
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The updated version of Artisteer shows: 2.5.0.29091
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Daverino
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Quote Ginger:
The updated version of Artisteer shows: 2.5.0.29091
Any chance of a link? 
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Michael
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Where are you getting 2.5...? The current download version is a 2.4
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Hunter gatherer
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Quote Michael:
Where are you getting 2.5...? The current download version is a 2.4
All you need to do is submit a support request. They will send you a link. It looks like they are treating it as an alpha release.
They are asking to be informed of any problems with the pre-release version before they announce it as a beta for download.
So, just go to "support", let them know you want the update for the Wordpress 3.0 version and they will send you the link.
Thanks to Ginger for tipping me off.
HG/MS
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2ninerniner2
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Thanks Ginger & HG for the tip :) Just got mine and already I am liking what I see. The "footer widgets" is not the same as the Toemon patch, but I kind of like the Artisteer method better; there are now 2 additional "widget areas" - above content and below content. Also, there is now multiple menu support! :) ..which works just fine ... so far :)
OK, back to the testing!
Cheers!
Lyle
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Daverino
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I just got 2.5 and i don't know what's wrong. I opened a theme i've made before and exported it under another name. When i have it installed in wordpress and activate it, all i get a blank page. I also tried making a new theme to test, and i get the same results. 
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Adeptris
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Quote Daverino:
I just got 2.5 and i don't know what's wrong. I opened a theme i've made before and exported it under another name. When i have it installed in wordpress and activate it, all i get a blank page. I also tried making a new theme to test, and i get the same results.
Silly question but you are testing on a WordPress 3 install?
I do not have the Alpha version so I can not test it, but that would be the most likely thing, not sure if the exported themes are backward compatible.
David
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Daverino
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Quote Adeptris:
Quote Daverino:
I just got 2.5 and i don't know what's wrong. I opened a theme i've made before and exported it under another name. When i have it installed in wordpress and activate it, all i get a blank page. I also tried making a new theme to test, and i get the same results.
Silly question but you are testing on a WordPress 3 install?
I do not have the Alpha version so I can not test it, but that would be the most likely thing, not sure if the exported themes are backward compatible.
David
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Daverino
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Quote Adeptris:
Quote Daverino:
I just got 2.5 and i don't know what's wrong. I opened a theme i've made before and exported it under another name. When i have it installed in wordpress and activate it, all i get a blank page. I also tried making a new theme to test, and i get the same results.
Silly question but you are testing on a WordPress 3 install?
I do not have the Alpha version so I can not test it, but that would be the most likely thing, not sure if the exported themes are backward compatible.
David
Yup it was 3.0
-Dave
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2ninerniner2
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Yep, here as well :)
After installing the Alpha, I reopened an existing one I had made (with the Toemon patch too). saved it as a new ARTX file and then exported the new filename as a WP ZIP. Installed it into my existing WP 3.0 test install (where I was testing the Toemon patch), set everything up, and COOL! ... works like a charm! The latest FF, Chrome. IE8. Safari and Opera (Win 7, Home premium). This is on a live server hosted on a Go Daddy shared Linux account.
IMHO, I believe the Artisteer folks are stretched a tad thin trying to keep up with not only the latest incompatible updates coming (came for WP) for the 3 main CMSs that are supported, not to mention the plethora of requests (sometimes I have to think "whines") from users, that they can't find the time to give a heads up on their product roadmap.
And don't forget, Artisteer is a division of Extensoft, which does a whole lot more than Artisteer! ... plus they are partially based in Vegas, so go figure :) !
Cheers!
Lyle
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Abland
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Hi,
A couple questions if anyone has answers:
This 2.5 alpha - does it overwrite the current Artisteer install like an upgrade?
Does it install as a trial version if the renewal period has expired?
Does it install as a trial if installed on a different computer?
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