2ninerniner2
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I have been a loyal Artisteer customer since day one, and my licence is still valid. However, I have no interest in any subsequent versions as I no longer use it, nor the product, of which I also have a valid licence for, whose initials are the same as a sporty German auto.
The reason?
I work exclusively in WordPress and as a result of Artisteer's silly export ritual (whether or not it works or is effective is moot; it's the principle), I went looking for something else. What I found and now use exclusively is a combination of products; one has the same name as a chapter from the bile and the other is a deliberate mis-spelling of the opposite of static. On the latter's forum, many competitive products are actively discussed.
Just my 2.5 cents (CDN) worth :)
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Life Ok
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Quote Eileen:
Hello, guys!
thank you for all your feedbacks and questions. We all in Artisteer team (especially Artisteer support team) are waiting for Joomla export plugin update and can say that it's pretty close to be released. Developers are still working on several issues and we'll update plugin when all modifications are completed.
I'm sorry but I cannot provide estimated date. Please follow the news in this forum post http://www.artisteer.com/?post_id=237028&p=forum_post&forum_id=20
Come To Point
What is the near future?
you take log time for update ? What is the new future?
You have since November 19, 2013 joomla 3.2 compatibility update
today 5 Month and you have say we are updated plug-in
honestly say or replay Why we all renewal artisteer ?
we all are love you .... You Love Your Clients ?
honestly say or replay Why we all renewal artisteer ? What is the new future?
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GEO
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It seems that something went wrong here.
Over 3 month without any news, no answers about the future.
My upgrade period ends in april 2014 and then?
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Antonina
Artisteer Team
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Hello Life Ok and GEO,
Now we update Joomla, Wordpress and Drupal export plugins right on our server, and it is sufficient, just to re-export templates, so that the newest fixes are applied. We have posted this news in the corresponding read-only forum topics. For example, the latest Joomla export plugin update was released on 2/20/2014: http://www.artisteer.com/?post_id=237028&p=forum_post&forum_id=20
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Ellis
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Quote :Hello Life Ok and GEO, Now we update Joomla, Wordpress and Drupal export plugins right on our server, and it is sufficient, just to re-export templates, so that the newest fixes are applied. We have posted this news in the corresponding read-only forum topics. For example, the latest Joomla export plugin update was released on 2/20/2014: http://www.artisteer.com/?post_id=237028&p=forum_post&forum_id=20
So...to fix any issues with older joomla templates I should load the old .artx file in artisteer and re-export the theme as a .zip file and install that template again? I have nearly a hundred live sites. Will I need to do this with every on-server update? That's a LOT of work!
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Antonina
Artisteer Team
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Ellis, in the older Artisteer versions (4.1 and older) export plugins for the CMS's mentioned were updated on the Marketplace, and it was necessary, to download such plugin updates from Marketplace and, again, to re-export. As you see, now it is necessary just to re-export the templates, and it is easier. I cannot suggest any other ways to update the templates. However, if you have a specific issue with some of your websites, we could search for an alternative solution if you contact support directly at http://www.artisteer.com/Default.aspx?p=support
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Life Ok
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Say what we do new ???
its last one year say what all are new develop with your software ?
http://www.artisteer.com/?p=dev you see link
Now Tell me Where are you in development ?
you are happy when we are happy
you do that http://www.artisteer.com/?p=dev
all are happy and you get lot of money and trust
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ijon
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Since February 21, 2013 when Art. 4.1 was released:
- tumblr was implemented,
- there were some header/slider modifications
- some responsive improvements
- lots of bugs was fixed.
All this was done during the entire year. Well... that's not much for certain... The question is what should we expect for the next year ? Just a slowly bug fixing and CMS export plugins improvements ? No new features / options / ecommerce cart support / major responsive improvements ?
Don't get me wrong - I still think that Artisteer is really good and I use it every day. But I am simply worried about the future because I do not know what are the developments plan so I have to wonder if there are any development plans at all...
Well, maybe your current "geopolitical" situation is not allowing you to act faster for now. I can understand that - Simferopol is now under Russian occupation... In that circumstances I can wait - but just tell us what are your DEVELOPMENT plans for the near future...
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ChristianK
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All our best wishes go out to you folks in Simferopol and the rest of the Ukraine.
A user.
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Life Ok
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Where is Artisteer Team ? we all know you can do this
We All support you but you also support us
say same thing for that
Say what we do new ???
its last one year say what all are new develop with your software ?
http://www.artisteer.com/?p=dev you see link
Now Tell me Where are you in development ?
you are happy when we are happy
you do that http://www.artisteer.com/?p=dev
all are happy and you get lot of money and trust
say tru we are close company if this is do this
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Lins
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I'm going to jump ship for my next project. It's not the time so much as it's the lack of information or 'road map'. All in all made me very nervous. Such a shame as a great product.
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Eileen
Artisteer Team
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Hello guys,
we all here in Artisteer team understand your interest to development process and new features and options.
Currently we're working on different bug fixes, improvements and new features. When it concerns the export plugin, then corresponding plugin is updated and it does not require the Artisteer update. For example you may see that after the last Artiteer release the WP and Joomla plugins are updated.
We'll definitely inform about any other specific news.
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kjv1611
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First of all, if all the folks working for Artisteer are in a location that's dealing with geopolitical issues at this time, then that could definitely give some reason to CURRENTLY give some lax, however that doesn't explain the history to date.
I think that if you would simply add some blog posts or something to the "New" section, NOT just new versions of your product, then we'd all feel like you're still doing SOMETHING and it's worth buying your product. I kept the product active for 2 or 3 years at least, but finally just gave up on it this last time when came time to renew. I just don't see enough benefit at this point to be worth spending my money here.
Since this seems to be the only place I can find any activity), here are some things ( that I'd like to see, and if at least some symbolism of SOME of this happened, I might consider buying again:
1. Communication - There is practically no new communication. All I generally see is: This new version is AWESOME! Come download latest version! We fixed 2 bugs and added a new feature! It's really cool!
.... So, for new features, it would be beneficial (especially since it's a commercial product) to add some details about it: What is it, how does it help, examples of how to use it, when would we want to use it, etc?
2. Mobile support - and maybe it's better now, I don't know. The mobile market now consumes more than half of all web content. The latest numbers I heard on regular news was that only 45% of all web traffic is now due to desktop/laptop usage. The rest is mobile devices (apps and sites on mobile devices)
3. (For us Drupal folks - I realize this may not be the largest bulk of folks, but it is a product you advertise to support) - Let us know your plans - Drupal 8 is in Alpha stage right now. They are apparently now using the Twig engine/tool for templates as the default template usage (though it sounds like they want to allow fallback to the old method). So what are your initives here? Anything?
4. Allow importing of external templates. For instance, on a Drupal 7 site, I'd of been more inclined to use Artisteer if I could have imported the base Fusion them or similar theme that is already designed to work better on mobile devices than the default themes. So if there were a way to import external themes and basically build a subtheme on top of it, then that'd be incredible! That alone would likely snag new customers.
.... The idea is that you install the "base theme", and then you can have subthemes built off the base theme. So t's not like you have to actually MODIFY the base theme, but that you use it as a template which gets modified by the user.
5. Communication - or did I mention that already?
6. Types of communication.
...If you want to use the News spot, then by all means use it. DON'T use an obscure forum posting to mention a new feature. Instead, if you want to mention it in a forum, add a link in the forum to the actual "News" posting
... Timeline of events - Of course you'd mention that "these are not set in stone" - I think everyone who would use your product would know that problems come up, new bugs, new issues, life issues, etc... things generally have a tendency to NOT stay on track. But if we had a general idea, then at least we'd have a reason to consider renewing / buying the product.
.. Blog posts is another option - have someone who knows what's going on type up a post about things you're working on, problems you're running into, things you'd LIKE to get into, etc.
.. Blog posts on common topics that come up in forums. Maybe folks are requesting a feature that you think is already there, or that you think you have an alternative already in the system. Tell the folks HOW to use it right there in the Blog post - but be descriptive, don't assume they think the same way you do. Then in any forum links you found that in, you could add a link to the blog post for reference.
... not directly related ...
The Forum:
1. It would be good if you could just login once for each visit, so you didn't have to type your username, etc each time. Also, what if you needed to stop a particular person from posting? It's easier to manage when you have logins and such.
2. Something I noticed just today: When you start a new discussion/thread, there is no box asking for your email. However, if you reply to an existing message, it does ask for an email address. Surely that's a bug, so hopefully someone reads this who can actually fix it.
Anyway, I keep checking back here, but in now I guess over a year, I've not had a compelling reason to re-install Artisteer and pay to renew or buy if need be by now your product.
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ijon
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kjv1611 imho communication with Artisteer support team is very good. They are answering question here on forum and via support tickets. So imo this is not the problem. The problem is that there is nothing new to announce and this is the real reason of not posting news in the news section. Simply there is nothing to post. And it's not a communication problem - it's development problem.
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Hutch
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 Hmmmm - I have to say that I have rarely seen a forum that contains so much whining. I think the product is GREAT! Perfect? Never will be for some but for me it saves massive amounts of time skinning DNN sites and aside from a few bugs here and there, it works GREAT. I think some better documentation in the way of video tutorials would be VERY helpful. Keep up the good work Artisteer team!
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dominator
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artisteer 5.0 not 4.3 ...
why it s so longer.
ou wait after prestashop 1.6 with boostrap ? 
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Wakazumo
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For you vinegar type of posters here: Artisteer is a reasonable priced software package that enables you to theme/template design your cms. You can be the "designer" !! You should be grateful, the package is underpriced! And yes Artisteer has its limitations, flaws and bugs, The best alternative for it in this free world is to learn to code yourself in stead of complaining here about the Artisteer business model. For those who come and check for updates every day and mind to bug staff with: whine when whine where whinewhat, you spend way to much time bored out on the internet. A lot of the bugs in Artisteer are very well correctable with a few codehacks, but that presupposes getting that shrimpmousse called your brain to work!
I make a decent living with designing websites and Artisteer has proven itself as a very usefull tool, where it priced 10X higher then now, it would still be profitable.
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Life Ok
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Quote Eileen:
Hello guys,
we all here in Artisteer team understand your interest to development process and new features and options.
Currently we're working on different bug fixes, improvements and new features. When it concerns the export plugin, then corresponding plugin is updated and it does not require the Artisteer update. For example you may see that after the last Artiteer release the WP and Joomla plugins are updated.
We'll definitely inform about any other specific news.
Can You Sat Time Line ?
Point is Time Line Where you say Good news ?
plz not tell me after 2016 or 2017 development process and new features and options.
we all need 10-03-2014 same thing new and good
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www
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All is wrong here. How can i know there ate bug fixes if i dont see any messages about it ?
Put some subpage in Artisteer software where you list all changes, bug fixes and dates. Other ways i cant trust anything you say.
I want to know when, and what you fixed / added.
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Life Ok
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Where is Artisteer Team ? we all know you can do this
We All support you but you also support us
say same thing for that
Say what we do new ???
its last one year say what all are new develop with your software ?
http://www.artisteer.com/?p=dev you see link
Now Tell me Where are you in development ?
you are happy when we are happy
you do that http://www.artisteer.com/?p=dev
all are happy and you get lot of money and trust
say tru we are close company if this is do this
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Life Ok
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I know You are Live and You come back
where ?
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Alex
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sorry but why renew if not update the program?
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Tina
Artisteer Team
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Hello dear Artisteer users,
Sorry for such long silence! We cannot discuss all our upcoming plans, but one of the features we're working on are e-commerce features in Artisteer, to support e-commerce templates. This task turned out to be very complex and slows down some of our regular work and updates. We are also experimenting with a simplified version of Artisteer that can customize the web design for custom HTML & CSS in WordPress and Joomla templates. Please contact us if you are making substantial changes to Artisteer templates or have a custom template framework that you think would be worth supporting within Artisteer.
Please also feel free to submit new feature requests to us.
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Chrisnz
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Quote Tina:
Please contact us if you are making substantial changes to Artisteer templates or have a custom template framework that you think would be worth supporting within Artisteer.
Good job. Most of the changes I make outside of Artisteer to my Joomla templates relates to the responsive view and which modules etc need to be visible and in what order they fall and how they behave. Also find myself customising CSS for some 3rd party components to work within Artisteer's responsive framework.
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Doug Evans
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Tina,
Thanks for the update. Artisteer would definitely benefit from you posting this and other visions of the future of Artisteer in the NEWS section. Even if you just said that the plans for ecommerce will hopefully happen by end of 2014 or something as abstract as that, it would help give a vision. I personally would like to see more work done in the "responsiveness" of the program.
Thanks.
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Life Ok
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Quote Tina:
Hello dear Artisteer users,
Sorry for such long silence! We cannot discuss all our upcoming plans, but one of the features we're working on are e-commerce features in Artisteer, to support e-commerce templates. This task turned out to be very complex and slows down some of our regular work and updates. We are also experimenting with a simplified version of Artisteer that can customize the web design for custom HTML & CSS in WordPress and Joomla templates. Please contact us if you are making substantial changes to Artisteer templates or have a custom template framework that you think would be worth supporting within Artisteer.
Please also feel free to submit new feature requests to us.
What Is Timeline ?
after 6Month or 1 Year ?
you can beta or alpha relies so we are see your are say right
beta or alpha not use a production every know but all my friends and your all clients conform you say Truth
tell me ?
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Joe
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Oh, think the posts are censored now before they appear.
They know why.
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Joe
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they try to deceive us.
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Me
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As I posted in the other thread. The forum is censored for new visitors who want to make a purchase. Everything else is clear to anyone who has been monitoring the forum for a few weeks.
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Dave B
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Hopefully adding too many platforms will not affect the WP and Joomla functions. I would rather have a program that works well for less than have e-commerce.
I still think some split off or pro versions would be nice.
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