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Tegs

Posted: 10/1/2012
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I had this argument in a different thread...

Just got attacked by self proclaimed "developers" saying I was being ridiculous, and even that real statistics don't matter. My stats are very similar to the ones in this thread, and what it means to me is that if I develop an Artisteer4 theme about 15% of total visitors will see some variety of broken site.

I approached customer support to get an official answer and got:

"We do not officially support IE6 starting from Artisteer 3.1.
But in the latest Artisteer 4.0 version we use HTML5/CSS3 technologies and they are not rendered properly in old browsers such as IE 8 and older.
That means that templates created in Artisreer 4.0 will have no round edges, transparency and gradients in old IE versions.

If you need to have all your sites look similar in all browsers, you may want to use Artisteer 3.1 version.
Please download the Artisteer 4.0 version to see what I'm talking about, the templates look a bit different and simpler in old IE."

I've been an Artisteer user for many years. Still love it and think the new version is pretty flippin cool. I wish there was an easy answer, but if there is one its beyond me.

Windows XP is supported through 4/8/2014. After that people will be forced to upgrade to windows 8? Or whatever is available at the time. With that they will be automatically upgraded to the latest version of IE. The number of IE8 users (and below) should dwindle to a point where I'm comfortable using this version.

I personally am not a designer, I'm a marketer. If I run paid traffic to a site and 15% of the time the visitor sees something that's not up to par, my ROI drops.
You know It's hard out here for a ahemm "marketer."

I'm still going to try and work with it, I just updated my subscription.

But I feel like Artisteer4 might just be ahead of its time.

 
sbooder

Posted: 10/2/2012
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Quote Dave B:

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I would further modify the script by Google to include IE7, but not IE8.


Exactly, the XP thing is important. Why isn't there an IE7 warning already? What else do you need. IE6 is dead to me now. Anyone who uses it is seeing the whole Internet through a circus mirror anyway, so who cares about them? You can help them anymore. Who are these people anyway, Windows 98 still? Here are stats from my most visited site.

1. 8.0 58.60%
2. 9.0 21.70%
3. 7.0 15.87%
4. 6.0 3.81%

1. XP 43.70%
2. 7 37.44%
3. Vista 17.98%
4. Server 2003 0.49%
5. 2000 0.30%
6. 98 0.04%





You say "98 still?" but if I had my way and it was workable, I would still be using 98SE, it was the best OS Microsoft ever produced, an unbreakable, unhackable beauty of an OS.

I do still have it on one old laptop but that is for just playing some old favorites like Tombie 1, 2 and 3 and Myst.


 
Dan

Posted: 10/12/2012
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Quote Hank:

Why not just pop up a message on website saying IE7 and IE8 are very bad browsers, they no longer confirm to any internet standards so please upgrade to IE9, Chrome, FireFox or Safari.

IF - every website did this - people would soon get the message and hit the upgrade button.


Hank, do you really think that people in a company can decide to upgrade their browser when they want?

Please stop dreaming! Most people that are using a web browser in a company are forced to use IE8 at the moment. So, instead of losing your time against Microsoft, you'd better realize that today's business is still driven by Microsoft.

Of course, everybody has the choice to say : I don't care! As far as I'm concern, I'm not reach enough to think like that!
 
Dan

Posted: 10/12/2012
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EDIT : Of course, everybody has the choice to say : I don't care! As far as I'm concern, I'm not RICH enough to think like that!


 
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