Dave B
|
I know this has been beat to death all over the forums. After thinking about it and reading all the posts I wanted to share my 2 cents.
1. I support Artisteers enthusiasm to be cutting edge with V4. When the time comes and the browser world is caught up it will be mostly perfected by them. No complaints here, good job.
2. If you want to have the features available in html5 and css3 then using V4 is great. No one should be complaining so much when they have a backwards compatible version available that can be installed along with V4. If you don’t care about the backwards compatibility then use V4.
3. If you do want to use V4 then don’t make anything in it that is not supported by IE8 or whatever. Simple enough.
4. Support all visitors browsers then use V3 and be happy there is that option if you do.
With that out of the way. My only hope is that if a serious bug arises in V3 that they would address it and release a fix. My gut says they won’t but maybe that can be changed.
Really the bottom line is you wouldn’t use a MAC if you needed a program that only ran on Windows. So why use a program that only works with html5 and css3 if you need it to work with IE8.
You can’t make people update their browsers so it’s really a moot point.
Here is a website I found that lays out what is supported and not by these new standards. http://www.findmebyip.com/litmus
Does anyone agree with this or have insight into anything I do not comprehend?
|
| |
Dave B
|
Response from support.
Q: Can you please tell me one more thing.
If I continue to use v3 until the world catches up to html5 and css3 and I find a serious bug in it, will you address that and update a version 3.
I do not mind avoiding the features in V4 for now and use V3 if needed but to keep a subscription active I would like to know you will not completely ignore people that need to use it.
A: Unfortunately I do not have any information about such plans.
That may depend on the really critical bugs if there are such.
Some hope there.
|
| |
richard
|
Quote :3. If you do want to use V4 then don’t make anything in it that is not supported by IE8 or whatever. Simple enough.
To be honest, to me the worthwhile features in v4 are:
* slider in header (doesn't work in IE and can't be used on full width header so a kinda damp squib)
* responsive ( doesn't work in IE pre v 9)
* ability to turn of sidebars at page level (had this in Templateer already)
The rest, AFAICS, is mostly html fluff (mostly useless to WP/Joomla/Drupal devs).
I'm thinking to maybe use 3.x for simple site builds and move towards grid based responsive frameworks for anything fancy. 4.0 is looking more and more like a post-shark-jump release.
|
| |
Pekka M
|
Who cares if the responsive design does not work in IE pre v9. The most important thing is that the responsive theme works in smart phones and tablets!! That is the reason why I use the responsive possibility.
|
| |
richard
|
Quote Pekka M:
Who cares if the responsive design does not work in IE pre v9. The most important thing is that the responsive theme works in smart phones and tablets!! That is the reason why I use the responsive possibility.
It's not that they don't work responsively but on IE7 they don't work at all. That's a serious issue if any significant proportion of visitors may not be able to see the site at all.
|
| |
Jack
|
You have to consider that your talking about the general public. My biggest client is a school district that has windows xp. I have tracked and 28% of the following use IE8. The problem could be solved with the school by a plugin that reads the browser and a popup tells them to view this site in firefox or chrome and give them a download link or something. People are not educated about why MS won't update IE8. I built this school site with V4 and started getting complaints by the 100s. We get about 900 views a day. At first it was my problem. I researched and built it in V3. Everyone was fine. The school can't afford an update of any kind for a few years. (Budget cuts) I emailed all the staff and teachers and they all uploaded firefox as their browsers now.
|
| |
Dave B
|
This is my conundrum. Why would they think so many people would not get in this situation. How many people using this program would know this was going to happen.
Most companies would have made this pretty clear in the download disclaimer.
Hench my nervousness with this company. Just kinda strange if you ask me.
|
| |