Eric Gibson
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I know this topic has been done before, but I'd appreciate an update, especially from any professionals who really know coding. I'm a non-techie, would like to avoid coding and so of course am attracted to Artisteer for doing a multi-page Artisteer website.
1st... does any have a clue when the next version might be out that will do multiple pages without resorting to coding (I've seen several tutorials about this -- thanks, but, again, more coding than I'd like to do, if possible).
2nd... I've seen much varying different opinions about Artisteer and SEO... Someone (on another forurm) called it a "modern day Frontpage," ie full of extra coding, while others say it just generates WP templates which in turn can be made SEO-ready with the proper WP plugins (such as the all-in-one-SEO pack, or whatever it's called).
Yes, I'm aware that content is king, but I don't want to invest in something that's not also good at SEO... thanks!
(These concerns aside, it looks like an utterly awesome program).
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Pieter Cooreman
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From all websites, CMS driven or not, I have ever done, Artisteer is performing the worst SEO ever. There must be a reason. I think the many empty DIV's could play a role, or the huge HTML source it needs (30+ KB in the latest beta releases) to get the job done.
Whether this should stop you from looking into Artisteer... I'm not sure. There are many other elements affecting SEO. While I used to feel very comfortable when promising my customers a high ranking for several keywords in Google from day 10, I now am very careful with this promise. In case I need wonderful SEO, I do not use Artisteer templates.
If you *only* need good SEO, Artisteer is not your best option. If you are an SEO expert, you may be able to workaround some issues, but in general, you will not be satisfied with Artisteer.
I have tried to get some feedback via these forums before. But I feel like most users over here do not even know what SEO means, or they have no relevant experience with SEO.
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Jeff Cochran
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First, if you're not going to do coding, you're only going to get part of the site you really want. Artisteer can do a wonderful job for mock-ups and getting most of a site design running, but taking it to the next level is going to require coding.
That said, Artisteer does a great job for what it does, which does not include SEO. If you want the best SEO experience, you're again going to need to do some coding.
After all, isn't that why you're making the big bucks?
Jeff
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Gree
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To debunk the myth... DIVs are non-semantic, so regardless of how many empty ones you have, they will not affect your search engine visibility at all.
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blue sky
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the other think to do is to strip our all the redundant CSS that your design does not need - that would help
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annehouse
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I specialize in SEO. I have used artisteer, made some edits for better SEO - simple if you know what you are doing. I never call myself a designer as my main study is SEO , just as designers shouldn't promise SEO work - two different disciplines 
I don't mean this to sound snotty - If I can help you with any questions about how you can better optimize your templates feel free to contact me.
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Mark C
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Here's what SEO Company have to say about Artisteer:
Quote :SEO Company ( www.seocompany.com) is the world leader in search engine optimization. Team members regularly evaluate products and services as they relate to Search Engine Optimization. When we acquired Artisteer2 several months ago, we were immediately impressed with its features and functionality. Its ease of use immediately transferred into rapid development for internal as well as client projects. From an SEO perspective there are a few notable mentions for Artisteer2. First and foremost is that Artisteer generates lean and clean template code which other similar tools simply do not. Lean code is an important factor for Search Engine Optimization and Artisteer starts the foundation of your site in the right direction. Artisteer also creates templates which are “out of the box” ready for the most popular SEO plug-ins and add-ons for Joomla and Wordpress. Adding a these popular extensions and plugins often cause web designers to manually edit their templates to gain proper compatibility. With Artisteer we have not found this to be the case, this too saves time and money when focusing on building templates that support a search engine friendly site. These features combined with simple SEO techniques mean that sites created with Artisteer can easily and successfully rank in the top results of Google, Yahoo, and Bing. SEO Company officially endorses the Artisteer2 Automated Web Designer. It creates great looking templates, reduces production time and most importantly produces search engine friendly results. Brian Rider, Director of SEO Izaak Hale, Web Design Manager SEO Company www.seocompany.com
From the Testimonials page.
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Isaah
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Quote Mark C:
Here's what SEO Company have to say about Artisteer:
Quote : SEO Company ( www.seocompany.com) is the world leader in search engine optimization. Team members regularly evaluate products and services as they relate to Search Engine Optimization. When we acquired Artisteer2 several months ago, we were immediately impressed with its features and functionality. Its ease of use immediately transferred into rapid development for internal as well as client projects. From an SEO perspective there are a few notable mentions for Artisteer2. First and foremost is that Artisteer generates lean and clean template code which other similar tools simply do not. Lean code is an important factor for Search Engine Optimization and Artisteer starts the foundation of your site in the right direction. Artisteer also creates templates which are “out of the box” ready for the most popular SEO plug-ins and add-ons for Joomla and Wordpress. Adding a these popular extensions and plugins often cause web designers to manually edit their templates to gain proper compatibility. With Artisteer we have not found this to be the case, this too saves time and money when focusing on building templates that support a search engine friendly site. These features combined with simple SEO techniques mean that sites created with Artisteer can easily and successfully rank in the top results of Google, Yahoo, and Bing. SEO Company officially endorses the Artisteer2 Automated Web Designer. It creates great looking templates, reduces production time and most importantly produces search engine friendly results. Brian Rider, Director of SEO Izaak Hale, Web Design Manager SEO Company www.seocompany.com
From the Testimonials page.
Great review. I am sure this will comfort a lot of people who rely heavily on seo.
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Brian
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Quote annehouse:
I specialize in SEO. I have used artisteer, made some edits for better SEO - simple if you know what you are doing. I never call myself a designer as my main study is SEO , just as designers shouldn't promise SEO work - two different disciplines
I don't mean this to sound snotty - If I can help you with any questions about how you can better optimize your templates feel free to contact me.
I would be interested in the edits you suggest - For better SEO - please brian@videotestimonials.com
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Diana
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Quote annehouse:
I specialize in SEO. I have used artisteer, made some edits for better SEO - simple if you know what you are doing. I never call myself a designer as my main study is SEO , just as designers shouldn't promise SEO work - two different disciplines
I don't mean this to sound snotty - If I can help you with any questions about how you can better optimize your templates feel free to contact me.
I too would love to know the edits you suggest for improved SEO using Artisteer!
Thanks!
Diana (ddavid@gmail.com)
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James
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The SEO is great. Most of the sites I've done for clients have top listings.
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Marc
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Hi there.
This might seem like a silly question, but can 'Capture Forms' be integrated into Artisteer pages? And if so, where would you go to integrate them as I can't see anything in the Dash Board that would suggest this functionality.
Thanks.
Marc.
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Garry
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@ Marc
What CMS you are using ?
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Bill
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Hey Marc,
If you are using Joomla...which a huge majority are with Artisteer. You can download "Captcha" which is free and you can set it up for most any page. But it can come with some issues too.
A very good solution and free Joomla component is "aiContactSafe" I really like it personally. You use this then, instead of the built in contact page for Joomla. Captcha is built into it, and always works fantastic.
If your using WordPress, I'm not sure. I've always preferred Joomla over WordPress, and decided not to spend much time with it.
Cheers.
Quote Marc:
Hi there.
This might seem like a silly question, but can 'Capture Forms' be integrated into Artisteer pages? And if so, where would you go to integrate them as I can't see anything in the Dash Board that would suggest this functionality.
Thanks.
Marc.
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Sean
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for what it's worth, i'm an internet marketer and SEO is the absolute lifeblood of my business. i create all of my sites using Artisteer and I haven't had any SEO issues whatsoever. i use the all-in-one SEO pack for Wordpress and rank well for my keywords.
Sean
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yusra
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Quote annehouse:
I specialize in SEO. I have used artisteer, made some edits for better SEO - simple if you know what you are doing. I never call myself a designer as my main study is SEO , just as designers shouldn't promise SEO work - two different disciplines
I don't mean this to sound snotty - If I can help you with any questions about how you can better optimize your templates feel free to contact me.
could you help me for better SEO
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yusra
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Quote yusra:
Quote annehouse:
I specialize in SEO. I have used artisteer, made some edits for better SEO - simple if you know what you are doing. I never call myself a designer as my main study is SEO , just as designers shouldn't promise SEO work - two different disciplines
I don't mean this to sound snotty - If I can help you with any questions about how you can better optimize your templates feel free to contact me.
pls email me at syamila02@gmail.com
could you help me for better SEO
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Tom
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With all the SEO experts in this thread, I'm surprised I haven't seen one tip for better seo other than contact me. Spammers!
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Phil
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Given the amount of work involved in becoming an SEO expert, I don't blame them for not giving their expertise away for free.
These forums are for Artisteer problems and tips, not other internet advice.
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Tom
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When the internet advice applies to Artisteer templates, it does.
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Phil
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Where are the SEO options in Artisteer then?
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Tom
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Does Artisteer not output code to display a webpage that has tags which search engines use to evaluate a site for ranking purposes? Does Artisteer not produce these tags? Proper code has just as much weight in seo as content, and Artisteer produces that code, does it not?
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Tuomas Leppänen
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TBH, artisteer is not bad for SEO but you do have to know what you are doing. SEO is about content, links, titles (meta keywords arent used anymore tbh or have very very slight value) using headings correctly etc.
You have to think about your content and write it for person keeping SEO aspects in mind. Also optimizing site structure and title generation etc have huge impact. Also url's matter (a lot). Keyword placement has also its own value.
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Tuomas Leppänen
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@ Tom.
Valid code is part of SEO. There is nothing wrong with Artisteer code. Artisteer is as good or bad for SEO as the one creating SEO aspects. Personally I have no problems ranking my sites I build on most keywords / phrases to front page.
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Vinny
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Quote Pieter Cooreman:
From all websites, CMS driven or not, I have ever done, Artisteer is performing the worst SEO ever. There must be a reason. I think the many empty DIV's could play a role, or the huge HTML source it needs (30+ KB in the latest beta releases) to get the job done.
Whether this should stop you from looking into Artisteer... I'm not sure. There are many other elements affecting SEO. While I used to feel very comfortable when promising my customers a high ranking for several keywords in Google from day 10, I now am very careful with this promise. In case I need wonderful SEO, I do not use Artisteer templates.
If you *only* need good SEO, Artisteer is not your best option. If you are an SEO expert, you may be able to workaround some issues, but in general, you will not be satisfied with Artisteer.
I have tried to get some feedback via these forums before. But I feel like most users over here do not even know what SEO means, or they have no relevant experience with SEO.
I have been doing site maps and SEO robots .txt files as well as many other SEO tools for 10 years. I am having a problem finding a way to enter H1 headings into a simple two page theme I am going to use for socialnetworking.
Can anyone help me as to why I am not seeing any meta descriptions or title descriptions in the site after I export from artisteer. Where is a good place for me to place some H1 headings.
Regards Vinny
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Roberto
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Quote Mark C:
Here's what SEO Company have to say about Artisteer:
Quote :SEO Company ( www.seocompany.com) is the world leader in search engine optimization. Team members regularly evaluate products and services as they relate to Search Engine Optimization. When we acquired Artisteer2 several months ago, we were immediately impressed with its features and functionality. Its ease of use immediately transferred into rapid development for internal as well as client projects. From an SEO perspective there are a few notable mentions for Artisteer2. First and foremost is that Artisteer generates lean and clean template code which other similar tools simply do not. Lean code is an important factor for Search Engine Optimization and Artisteer starts the foundation of your site in the right direction. Artisteer also creates templates which are “out of the box” ready for the most popular SEO plug-ins and add-ons for Joomla and Wordpress. Adding a these popular extensions and plugins often cause web designers to manually edit their templates to gain proper compatibility. With Artisteer we have not found this to be the case, this too saves time and money when focusing on building templates that support a search engine friendly site. These features combined with simple SEO techniques mean that sites created with Artisteer can easily and successfully rank in the top results of Google, Yahoo, and Bing. SEO Company officially endorses the Artisteer2 Automated Web Designer. It creates great looking templates, reduces production time and most importantly produces search engine friendly results. Brian Rider, Director of SEO Izaak Hale, Web Design Manager SEO Company www.seocompany.com
From the Testimonials page.
Lol this company doesn't know anything about SEO ... Pls stay away from this website!
Why I say that? .. Just look on the validation page on W3C and check for this website: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seocompany.com&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.3+http%3A%2F%2Fvalidator.w3.org%2Fservices
LOL 104 html errors!
How they pretend to be SEO expert?
Anyway Im the owner of https://www.4host.ch and my web/SEO company is called: http://www.aid-web.ch
If you need a real hand in SEO/SEF, just call me in business day
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Ian Shere
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@Roberto
Thanks for your post.
Congrats on getting 4host.ch to validate correctly!!
However, while aid-web.ch has HTML errors, it has 808 CSS3 errors and 904 warnings......
Given the inference from your statement above we should also stay away from yours.
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Southerncalm
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Quote annehouse:
I specialize in SEO. I have used artisteer, made some edits for better SEO - simple if you know what you are doing. I never call myself a designer as my main study is SEO , just as designers shouldn't promise SEO work - two different disciplines
I don't mean this to sound snotty - If I can help you with any questions about how you can better optimize your templates feel free to contact me.
annehouse thanks for offering your help
i would like to pick your brain on these issues
if you could email me so i can communicate to you directly would be nice
futureproof001@yahoo.com
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