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InfoMega
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I'm looking for the ability to publish a template with a menu at the top, but there's two things WordPress is capable of doing that Artisteer seems to not be at all able to do (though I might be missing something).
1 - Include or exclude pages in the top menu instead of listing them all
2 - List categories in the top menu in addition to/instead of pages
Basically, I'm trying to make a menu at the top of my theme that has one or two of my static pages and two post categories as elements/buttons. It's perfectly possible to do this, I know, but I want to know if Artisteer can do it? (If I have to hand code fairly simple functionality, where's the value in buying the application?).
Thanks!
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Adam
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Artisteer's coding for the menu is truly ridiculous. Otherwise, it would just be a matter of pasting in code, say, like this, to exclude categories:
<ul>
<?php
wp_list_categories('exclude=4,7&title_li='); ?>
</ul>
However, with Artisteer's bizarre use of functions.php grotesquely intertwined with functions.php for menu function, and support that has until played dumb about this problem, it is truly difficult to so such simple things with an Artisteer-generated format, without completely replacing a whole bunch of code, which would kind of defeat the purpose in buying it. That said, I think the message is finally getting through to Artisteer's decision makers and past the fog of stubborn denial which they have foolishly exhibited like a leper missing a thumb, what with so many customers dissatisfied with this extreme flaw in Artisteer.
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InfoMega
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I unfortunately already did buy it... the manner that it handles code and such is utterly ridiculous, just as you say. However, I figured out that it is possible to do EVERYTHING that folks have been talking about doing with header menus extremely simply if you're willing to get your hands just a little dirty - so many people have asked about it on this forum that I might post a tutorial detailing what i did and how I did it.
Three lines of pure HTML overcomes the entire stupid limitation on header menus.
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chrish
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Would you please post those three lines of HTML?
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InfoMega
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I'm going to put a quick page together detailing the whole thing step by step - BUT - I don't know how it works for heirarchical buttons. You might only get one layer on the top menu (which is all I wanted, so I didn't fiddle with it any further), but that one layer can be *anything* you want, which is still a lot better than what we've got now.
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Walt
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Quote Adam:
However, with Artisteer's bizarre use of functions.php grotesquely intertwined with functions.php for menu function, and support that has until played dumb about this problem, it is truly difficult to so such simple things with an Artisteer-generated format, without completely replacing a whole bunch of code, which would kind of defeat the purpose in buying it.
Adam, obviously you're not a coder (or, at least I hope not), but you do seem to think you're technical. It should be easy enough for you to follow the directions in this post:
http://www.artisteer.com/Default.aspx?post_id=116835&p=forum_post
Insert the code listed there into header.php, and then you can use include and exclude to your heart's content.
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Jamie
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I don't get the impression that Adam was trying to come across as technical. He seemed to be writing from the perspective on an end-user. Why should he be forced to go into complicated coding? The people responding to him seemed to try to bombard him with technical jargon in an apparent attempt to distract from the points he was making. Except for you, they didn't actually offer a step-by-step solution, but just responded with personal attacks (he dished it out too, but wasn't as nasty, really) . But, what do I know? I'm sure he's totally wrong about everything he has written about Artisteer, What has he said that is untrue?
It seems to me, at least, that he's making legitimate points. It is true that with most Wordpress themes, you just paste in something like <?php wp_list_pages('title_li=&depth=1'); ?> or <?php wp_list_categories('title_li=&depth=1'); ?> or <?php
wp_list_categories('exclude=1,2&title_li='); ?> in the menu bar area of header.php and categories or page titles it show up nicely formatted in a theme's menu bar. Does that work with Artisteer? Is there an easy way to achieve this with an Artisteer-generated theme?
Appreciate your sharing your solution. What else has to be done for it to format in the same way the page tabs do? Thanks.
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James
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Geeze could it be easier than this?
http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/exclude-pages/
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Adam
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This had gotten way too ridiculous, and it is totally my doing. Nobody is asking my opinion (nor should they be), but Artisteer is a really cool program and as far as I know one of a kind in its ability to switch a design from one CMS to another or to html (especially for the price). I've seen some amazing stuff done with Artisteer, including new magazine themes that used Artisteer as a starting point. I only mess with code in the most rudimentary of rudimentary ways, so I really don't know what was involved in creating this program. I write from the viewpoint of a decidedly non-technical user of the product. It's an awesome program and I am thoroughly impressed with it, and it's getting better and better.
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