Easy to use CMS for artisteer


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Pieter

Posted: 4/26/2009
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i have just created an artisteer-clone of a CMS i develop:

http://artisteer.quickersite.com

logon to its control panel:
http://artisteer.quickersite.com/backsite (pw: artisteer)

This site is being reset every hour... be my guest to (ab)use it :)

This version of QuickerSite takes care of the basic things you need within an artisteer template:

the page-menu [PAGEMENU]
the page-title & body [PAGETITLE] & [PAGEBODY]
the header & footer [HEADER] & [FOOTER]
the banners [BANNER1] & [BANNER2]

and some more elements... just check the template under Setup/PageElements/Template...

would anyone be interested in trying this out?
 
Pieter

Posted: 4/26/2009
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here is another example with QuickerSite Lite Edition:
http://artisteer2.quickersite.com

backsite: http://artisteer2.quickersite.com/backsite (pw: artisteer)

Am I the only one impressed by my own efforts here? :-X Or do all of you use Joomla/Drupal/Wordpress and would you never use any other CMS anyway?

Please me know. Thx
 
Pieter

Posted: 4/27/2009
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here is another example with QuickerSite Lite Edition:
http://artisteer3.quickersite.com

backsite: http://artisteer3.quickersite.com/backsite (pw: artisteer)
 
Digital Illusions

Posted: 4/27/2009
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I'm impressed ! I'm a joomla fan but i don't like the way forums are integrated in joomla ... does your cms have an integrated forum ?

 
Nick

Posted: 4/28/2009
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The QuickerSite LE version (which is free), does not have a forum module, but the commercial one currently V2.3, soon to be V2.4 has a very nice forum module.
 
Jason

Posted: 8/25/2009
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Didn't work for me.
 
Nick

Posted: 8/27/2009
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Hi Jason,

As this is an Artisteer forum and not Quickersite, please head on to quickersite.com, and post in the forums there what did not work for you. I bet you will get useful help very quickly.
 
Andy

Posted: 8/29/2009
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Quickersite : 125 € (or go for the LE but no forum,no...,no ...)
Joomla : .... free
Wordpress : free
E107 : free
Other CMS : free

Andy

 
مهدی هواسی پور

Posted: 8/30/2009
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خد مات این نرم افزار فارسی شده توسط تیم طراحان جوان به همه ایرانیان عزیز آماده و فعال می باشد در زمینه فارسی سازی قالبها و ارائه برنامه و کرک آن :-{}
 
DavidM

Posted: 9/2/2009
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Quote مهدی هواسی پور:

خد مات این نرم افزار فارسی شده توسط تیم طراحان جوان به همه ایرانیان عزیز آماده و فعال می باشد در زمینه فارسی سازی قالبها و ارائه برنامه و کرک آن :-{}


That's what I was going to say, but then I though, "What am I saying!"
 
Pieter

Posted: 9/4/2009
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A new version of QuickerSite Artisteer Edition (that works with company templates created with Artisteer v22) is available.

Demo:
http://artisteer.quickersite.com
backsite: http://artisteer.quickersite.com/backsite (pw: qs)

Free download of this wonderful CMS:
http://www.quickersite.com/r/default.asp?iID=IDEGLK

QuickerSite is the first CMS that adopts Artisteer templates (in stead of Artisteer adopting CMS's). My customers are very satisfied with it, even, and probably because QS does not come with loads of useless features, but sticks to the basics of CMS.
 
RJ

Posted: 9/22/2009
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QuickerSite LE Artisteer Edition.

Now includes a default Artisteer template in the download package.

See the QuickerSite website for more details.
http://www.quickersite.com/r/quickersite-lite-edition-artisteer-edition.html
 
Matt

Posted: 9/23/2009
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Quote مهدی هواسی پور:

خد مات این نرم افزار فارسی شده توسط تیم طراحان جوان به همه ایرانیان عزیز آماده و فعال می باشد در زمینه فارسی سازی قالبها و ارائه برنامه و کرک آن :-{}


Huh???
 
Andy

Posted: 9/26/2009
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Please stop this commercial !
Wordpress / Drupal / Joomla are free and 1000 times better !
 
Pieter

Posted: 9/26/2009
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QuickerSite v25 will include another great feature: upload the zip file generated by Artisteer and AUTOMATICALLY unzip and install the template. This will rock. I am currently finalizing the development of this feature. It will help the many QS customers to get the most out of Artisteer and QuickerSite.

Oh yes, Andy, if you really don't know anything about the website business and commercial CMS, don't waste your time in this topic, Unlike Joomla, Wordpress and the others, QuickerSite does NOT need security patches every 2 weeks. I have many customers who come from Joomla, because their sites got hacked 3 times/year... They just got sick of Joomla and Wordpress... :-D They are happy with QS... Don't take my word for it. Just read the reviews on http://www.codango.com/asp/fnc/review-search/?id=9128110&qry=quickersite

;-)
 
Pieter

Posted: 9/26/2009
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What business users expect from CMS:
-a complete package, with all the important features built-in
-high security standards
-ease of use

Joomla, Drupal and Wordpress are NOT meeting these requirements. QuickerSite does.

My 2 cents... Well my 100.000 $ actually :)
 
Pieter

Posted: 9/26/2009
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Oeps, i forgot to mention the most important thing business wants:
FIRST CLASS SUPPORT - not from studens, "the community" or anonymous forums, but from the software vendor.

That is what I do with QuickerSite, and what some of my partners do for their customers. Nothing comes for free these days I'm afraid. Implementing "free" CMSs include many "hidden" costs, we all know that. I develop an honest business with QS. Thanks for giving me the chance for making my point Andy.
 
Jeremy

Posted: 9/26/2009
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Hopefully all these bugs are gone ?

http://www.webhostingtalk.nl/bugtraq-mailing-lijst/137311-quickersite-multiple-vulnerabilities.html

http://marc.info/?l=bugtraq&m=121259012301224&w=2

Andi has a point.
This is a forum, not a place to sell your product.


 
Pieter

Posted: 9/26/2009
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Yes Jeremy, all these bugs are gone. I hope you don't want me to post all Joomla and Drupal security issues... There are tons... but you knew that already. All these issues (they were all the same, but syndicated to 100's of security portals) just proof that QS was a very popular CMS back in 2008. I saw 1000 new sites in 1 year. Unfortunately, an Iranian hacker found some issues, and reported them on a site, and not to me... That was a very bad thing to do. That is why I converted QS to a commercial CMS. In general Iranians (and Afghanians) do not buy software... so QS is safe now :)

You are right though about this forum not being a place to sell a product. But remember, QS LE is a free solution, and an easy and reliable alternative for Joomla and the others.
 
Jeremy

Posted: 9/27/2009
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I was only joking Pieter.

Your quote "Unlike Joomla, Wordpress and the others, QuickerSite does NOT need security patches every 2 weeks" was a little bit ridiculous.
Artisteer, Joomla, M$-Windows (vista,XP,...), endless list needs updates, bugfixes, security updates and so on.
I don't know your product and i'm sure it's a good product but let's be honest.
How many persons are working/developping on CMS QS ?
It's almost impossible to compete with another cms with a community of 1000's of people and more.
(But your effort to integrate Artisteer into your CMS is a very nice effort)

Kind Regards
J.



 
Pieter

Posted: 9/28/2009
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Jeremy,

-the QS lite edition (this includes the Artisteer edition) has indeed not needed ONE security patch or bug fix for more than a year now. MORE THAN A YEAR. No issues whatsoever...
-I cannot tell how many people use QuickerSite. It must be between 500 and 1000.
-Compete with Joomla and the others? I have no problem with that. There is no point in competing with something that is free, is there?
-My "effort" (thanks for the compliment) is MUCH more than an effort. It is a success story. Check out the latest video on this matter on http://www.qs2008.org/zip/index.htm

I have many customers coming from Joomla. And yes, I have lost 1 customer to Joomla. You know why? Because of.... Artisteer. When I showed him Artisteer few months back, he decided to try the Joomla-export, and he uses Joomla now. Because it's free and thanks to Artisteer 8-)
 
Bob

Posted: 9/28/2009
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I completely agree with Jeremy - 1000's of people all pulling together would be an unbeatable solution. Are they all pulling in the same direction? O:)

The truth is that all these CMS are great products. For my money they're all a bit over-bloated but good none the less. Of course for any product, like Quickersite, to be considered in the top 10 in such a crowded market is an astonishing achievement. It's fast flexible and has great support. Now it's got great, pro-active, Artisteer support

Joomla etc does that too I know. Those apps aren't free anyway - there's a huge learning curve to consider for a start.

as this is an Artisteer forums perhaps it's worth considering that Pieter is the only CMS developer, that I've seen, who is actively making his products Artisteer friendly. That seems like a cause for celebration to me.

Bob
 
BFT

Posted: 10/3/2009
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I have looked at all CMS packages (including Quickersite).
So what have I have chosen as the best that money can buy. Joomla! what else has the support, cost effectiveness and a large user base.

The fact it is open source is a bonus, not a liability.

 
Nick

Posted: 10/5/2009
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I don't know about Joomla or Drupal, I use QuickerSite & Wordpress. The problem with Wordpress is that it requires 25-30 plug-ins to have the same functions as Quickersite. So setup times get multiplied ten-fold. The biggest problem though is that a lot of the plug-ins don't work as a newer version comes out, it seems every month (security fixes). Sometimes these plugins never get updated, so they become useless, since they don't work with the newest secured version. No one is accountable, since they are developed by the community. Good luck getting customer support too. You spend weeks going through all the plugins trying to find something to help you make a descent site with even some basic features that in Quickersite they are all built in and some. Some plugins are very good, some totally useless. And once you delete a plugin, since most of them don't have uninstallation routines, they leave behind their junk in the database. Furthermore, QuickerSite has many features that are unique, and way easier to use. It does not use the weak TinyMCE editor, but you have a choice of FCKeditor, or Innova Studio, which for me, is the best web editor by far. Furthermore, yoou can develop your own scripts to the system in various ways, Quickersite has a pretty open system. One thing that Pieter forgets to mention is, within 2 minutes, thanks to a configuration file, you can REBRAND it to anything you want. Who would like a rebranded quality CMS? Try selling a Joomla web site for $3,000 when your customer knows Joomla is free. What, your 10 hours of work is worth that? How will you justify your price, without looking like an idiot?

Yes, Joomla etc.. are free, and QuickerSite is 125 Euros. Big deal. You get back the money with the developing time you save, without any hassles. So you give back a small portion to license your QuickerSite web site. Just in the last year how many Wordpress web sites were hacked, and how many QuickerSites? You get what you pay for.

A lot of people here want everything for FREE, there is no such thing: if you want a real high quality commercial product, there is a price. It so happens, both Artisteer, and Quickersite, are such high quality professional products, costing very little in fact.

Pieter is offering the best alternative to these FREE crappy CMS's, and if you don't like it, don't read his posts. You don't have to disrespect him, specially if you don't know what you are talking about. Your best response is that Joomla is free. Really? REALLY? Is that your best argument? Throw in anything else to why Joomla, etc... are better than QuickerSite, and I would love to rebuttal you point by point.

Don't get me completely wrong. To be fair, all these free CMS are good to a point. They all have their advantages, and weaknesses, including QuickerSite. You just have to weigh in everything, before deciding which CMS to use, cost, features, how quickly you can setup and develop a complete professional web site. And did I mention you can totally REBRAND QuickerSite? Who else does this? Who else, encourages and helps you with a configuration script to rebrand abd piece of software. QuickerSite is the only one that I know of. I would love to buy any such software...
 
CMSWorkz

Posted: 10/9/2009
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I use Artisteer exclusively on many different CMS setups, I was excited to read here about Quickersite until I went to the website and saw that it is only for Windows Servers. Will there be a non Windows version?
 
Sylvain

Posted: 10/9/2009
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QuickerSite would be an interesting CMS for me to investigate if it was offering support for Windows Live Writer (WLW); which in my opinion is by far the best blogging editor.

I'm setting up at this moment a Joomla site as a test bed for a client and I don't want to give them the necessity of using an HTML based editor for filling their articles. WLW is compatible with Joomla, Drupal, WordPress and many other CMS or Blogs; so if there is a problem with Joomla, it won't be hard to transfert the site to another CMS.

It would be great if support for at least one blogging client interface (MovableType API, Metaweblog API, etc.) was added to QuickerSite. Until then, I'm not sure if I'm interested to show QS to a client knowing that he will be limited to use an HTML based editor.

 
Pieter

Posted: 10/9/2009
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@CMSWorkz: Thanks for your note. No, QuickerSite will work on Windows-servers only. I do not plan a PHP version.

@Sylvain, thanks for your feedback. Very useful to read about WLW. I didn't even know that blogging system. Please note that QuickerSite ships with a very flexible (template-driven) feed-reader, that reads all sorts of RSS and ATOM feeds. So a blog with Blogger.com, WLW, blogspot.com, or any Wordpress blog can easily be "imported" in QuickerSite, pretty much like http://demo.quickersite.com/default.asp?iId=HKJEM reads the current CNN headlines.
 
Pieter

Posted: 10/9/2009
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@Sylvain: http://www.quickersite.com/wlw reads a WLW driven blog.

 
Sylvain

Posted: 10/10/2009
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Quote Pieter:

@Sylvain: http://www.quickersite.com/wlw reads a WLW driven blog.



Thanks Pieter. I've looked around the site before posting here and I did not find any reference to WLW in the technical description of QuickerSite. If QS support WLW and other blogging client, I would have expected this feature to be displayed more obviously :-X

I'll make some tests later with the Lite Edition and see what does this gives.
 
Johnathin

Posted: 10/11/2009
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Quote Dan:

Quote Pieter:

, QuickerSite does NOT need security patches ever , Unlike Joomla, Wordpress and the others every 2 weeks. I have many customers who come from Joomla, because their sites got hacked 3 times/year... They just got sick of Joomla and Wordpress... :-D They are happy with QS... Don't take my word for it. Just read the reviews on http://www.codango.com/asp/fnc/review-search/?id=9128110&qry=quickersite

;-)


Do you really mean you are better than thousands and hundreds of people that develop those CMS?

wow!
:-O


I agree whats up with this guy?
 
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