Abland
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Hi,
WordPress 3.2 is out and I've updated my installs with themes from Artisteer 2.4.x, 2.5.x, and 3.0.x and everything looks good so far.
Plugins have survived and the sites do seem "snappier" now in loading.
I'd like to hear what others have experienced, or if they've encountered things to look out for.
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Abland
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One thing I found was with a theme switcher plugin I use on a couple sites. I exclude the default theme and had to add the default Twenty Eleven to the exclusion list after the upgrade.
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Clippy
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I've been demoing it pretty hard since the earliest betas without any hitches at all, not even plugin-wise.
Great update.
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Kelley
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Hi Abland,
I've only updated one site which is:
http://www.azrealtyprofessionals.com/
It's does seem snappier in FireFox but in IE, each page flashes white before loading. Very unsightly.
Kelley
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Mr Parrot
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Hi Kelley,
I agree that the sites seems to be snappier. I didn't have a problem with your demo site in IE though.
Ian
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B.E.
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Hi Kelley,
your site should gain much more performance by using a caching plugin (super cache or W3Total Cache). In my case the pload time had shrinked from 4.5 to 0.7 seconds.
The white flashing in IE I could also "admire" at my own site which normally I almost see with FFox only where that effect isn't there at all.
May be that's being caused by the IE related browser switch (i.e. IE version switch) in artisteer templates.
With wordpress 3.2. not supporting IE 6 anylonger I will remove it from the template and then look for the flashing effect again.
regards,
B.E.
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webguygary
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3.2 is fine for all of my sites.
Kelley, IE loads/renders html differently than other browsers, thus the white flash, which is actually the html BG color loading & rendering faster than the BG image, which loads a split second later.
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Abland
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Hi, B.E.,
Quote B.E.:With wordpress 3.2. not supporting IE 6 any longer I will remove it from the template and then look for the flashing effect again.
I tried removing the ie6 stylesheet call in header.php but it made no difference to the page load. However, it does make a difference to site visitors. According to WordPress, the 3.2 doesn't support IE6 in the admin, but for site visitors the stylesheet seems a good idea to leave in, or else using some "outdated browser" alert for visitors.
I used this service to check the difference:
http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/index.php
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Kelley
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I think the issue is related to this site only; other upgrades have gone smoothly and no flicker.
Kelley
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Kelley
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Spoke too soon... another flicker:
http://www.cla.web-eze.com/
I'm going to be really disappointed if this is the result I can expect from upgrading. I did install WP Super Cache on this site and the other mentioned above. No difference; white bg continues to show before page renders.
Kelley
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Bud
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Try adding this to the head section of your header.php file...
<!--[if IE]> <meta http-equiv="Page-Enter" content="blendTrans(duration=0.01)" /> <meta http-equiv="Page-Exit" content="blendTrans(duration=0.01)" /> <![endif]-->
This seems to work for me.
Bud
thetemplateer.com
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White Flash
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Confirmed. There is a white flash on all sites updated to WP 3.2.
I'm using Firefox.
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Kelley
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Hey Bud,
In conjunction with a cache plugin, this seems to help quite a bit.
Thank you and kudos on the success of your recent release of the Templateer. You really out did yourself!
Kelley
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Digital Raindrops
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Hi Kelley,
I tried to use the validator for your link but it cannot validate the site.
Quote :
Sorry, I am unable to validate this document because on line 81 it contained one or more bytes that I cannot interpret as utf-8 (in other words, the bytes found are not valid values in the specified Character Encoding). Please check both the content of the file and the character encoding indication.
The error was: utf8 "\x94" does not map to Unicode
I wonder if this is causing the "hic-cup" while it tries to load.
Because in Pingdom Tools it looks like the initial load is about a second that could be causing the issue.
http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/?url=http://www.cla.web-eze.com//&id=5058671
HTH
David
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Kelley
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Thanks David.
Tried to narrow down the error but I see none at that code line. Did find another error (wrong smart quote), but that wasn't the issue.
Pingdom site is great, too...but before I loaded W3 Cache, I had the same problems.
Surely I can't be the only one having this issue?
-Kel
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Roger
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No white flash on this site for me in Firefox:
http://www.azrealtyprofessionals.com
Major white flash on this one:
http://www.cla.web-eze.com
Nice sites by the way. I'm inspired by the cleanness. :)
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Abland
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Hi, Kelley,
I checked the code that Digital Raindrops indicated, and line 81 contains:
<!--<![endif]-->
Just above that on line 79 you've commented out a section:
<!-- div class="claflash-alt"><a href="http://www.adobe.com/go/getflashplayer"><img src="http://www.adobe.com/images/shared/download_buttons/get_flash_player.gif" alt="Get Adobe Flash player" /></a></div-->
I'm wondering if you should just delete that section as it may be confusing the browser with the "<!--" and "-->" in the midst of the not IE conditions.
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Abland
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Hi, Kelley,
I checked the code that Digital Raindrops indicated for http://www.cla.web-eze.com, and line 81 contains:
<!--<![endif]-->
Just above that on line 79 you've commented out a section:
<!-- div class="claflash-alt"><a href="http://www.adobe.com/go/getflashplayer"><img src="http://www.adobe.com/images/shared/download_buttons/get_flash_player.gif" alt="Get Adobe Flash player" /></a></div-->
I'm wondering if you should just delete that section as it may be confusing the browser with the "<!--" and "-->" in the midst of the not IE conditions.
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Kelley
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Maybe we should start a new thread about White Flash?
But, to answer your question, I did remove the errant code above and ran the W3 checker -- just a few minor errors that I can see.
I thought I saw improvements last night after adding Bud's fix and also trying some different cache plugins. But, this AM it's the same - flashing white. I know WebguyGarry says this is normal, but there must be a work around. Researched FOUS but that fix also did not make a difference.
I'm challenged as to what to do next. Afraid to upgrade any more sites until I can address this matter.
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Abland
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Hi, Kelley,
Try disabling Contact Form 7. There were issues reported in the past about this plugin loading jquery on every page instead of just the page the form appears, and it caused conflicts.
WordPress 3.2 now loads version 1.6.1 jquery so that might be the issue.
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Kelley
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I've disabled all plugins -- still see the Flash in IE. Do you?
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Roger
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Same as my previous post.
Looks to me like the pages are not be cached. Like it's reloading every graphic with each page load.
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Roger
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Think it has anything to do with this?
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Roger
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Sorry forget the link.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438830
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Abland
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Hi, Kelley,
Only some pages flash white while others load nice. The ones that flash white have this code in the footer:
<script type='text/javascript' src='http://www.cla.web-eze.com/wp-content/plugins/contact-form-7/jquery.form.js?ver=2.52'></script>
The ones that load nice don't have that code.
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Abland
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Hi, Kelley,
This might help:
http://contactform7.com/blog/2009/11/22/loading-javascript-and-stylesheet-only-when-it-is-necessary/
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Kelley
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Abland -- thanks for the tip on Contact 7.
Would you mind checking the pages and letting me know if they seem OK now? Much appreciated.
Kelley
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Roger
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Quote Kelley:
Abland -- thanks for the tip on Contact 7.
Would you mind checking the pages and letting me know if they seem OK now? Much appreciated.
Kelley
Well looks like I'm invisible. So I won't bother to tell you the solution. Thanks for nothing guys. Well at least I was able to fix it. Good luck with only Abland helping you. So rude.
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Kelley
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Hi Roger,
I apologize; I did not mean to be rude -- sometimes I get so stuck on a certain project I can't see the forest through the trees (whatever that means).
Kindest,
Kelley
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Digital Raindrops
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Hi Roger,
The Artisteer forum is like any other where different suggestions are posted!
This forum is many times better than others for getting replies, and the posters will keep offering suggestions.
If you post in the Facebook and other forums you hardly ever get an answer, let alone more than one or a thank you if you do reply!
I know from experience that Kelley will always close a topic with a "thanks to all that answered!"
All I can see is a response to one solution from Abland, I checked you link for FireFox bug trac about the plugins, but I did not see a working solution there, unless I missed something.
If you have a solution please share with the friendly Artisteer community!
Regards
David
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