How to convert this site to Artisteer?


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blue sky

Posted: 5/15/2013
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I need to convert http://www.eleoscounselling.com/ to use an Artisteer 4.1 theme instead of the original developer's customised theme.

It seems really straightforward but the first sticking point is getting the main image (with the face on the left hand side) to sit underneath the horizontal nav. The image is on every page.

The next one is to how to get the rotating quotations to sit on top of the main image as well!
 
Bazish

Posted: 5/15/2013
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please download artx project 4.1 from following link where i roughly converted above website into artisteer project.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cwkm6ykvly0mr22/bdn_free394.zip

just update theme for font styles and other little things you might wanted to tweak.

header image is underneath menu bar.

for rotating quotation, when you export your theme and activate into wordpress, you will see a Widget area under Apperance menu (wordpress admin dashboard), use any plugin available online for rotating quotations and place that widget into hdr-testimonials widget area at backend. it will stay on top of the image.

please note above theme artx file will be deleted from server the next time i plan to clear up my dropbox.
 
Nick

Posted: 5/15/2013
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Absolutely BRILLIANT !!! A little bit of imagination and a moment of genius goes long ways.

Now, I would suggest a small change in the template.

The name of the site "Eleos Counselling" is an image, which is fine. However, this image will not be shown in the responsive layouts (tablet, phone), that's why you need to have the Headline. However, the way it is now, you will have 2 instances of the Headline (the image, and the text). You have 2 choices.

1. The easy way: Insert the following in your Style.css file:

.art-headline {
display:none;
}

The headline will not be shown in the desktop view, but it will be only shown in the responsive layouts, which is fine, because the image will not be shown in these cases.

2. This is going to use the image for all devices.

- So delete the headline from the header.
- Also delete the image (shape from the header as well).
- Now go to the Controls menu, and choose either the Facebook, Twitter or RSS icons. Upload a custom image for one of them.
- Now go back to the header, and insert the control you inserted the custom image (FB, TW, or RSS). Insert a url on the control if you want to (and you should).

Now, in this scenario. the image - the name of the site, the logo, will be shown in all devices - desktop, tablets, and phones.

Either way, nicely done, and just BRILLIANT !!!
 
Bazish

Posted: 5/15/2013
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@Nick

Good idea to control things in responsive mode without using Templateer.

i always use Templateer to export when i am doing commercial work, so that give me control on most of the things to see them responsive.

I liked your idea in other post regarding having two separate menu(one for regular CMS and one for Woocommerce) implementing them..


 
blue sky

Posted: 5/15/2013
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Crumbs guys, thats truly amazing! I am extremely grateful and will look at the code to see how you did it! I very much am in favour of not using images as the site title where possible too.

Converting to Artisteer just gives me so much more control over the site as I am a php novice. I used to hand code HTML/CSS but haven't done so now for some years as I so much prefer to build sites using the Artisteer/wordpress combo.
 
Bazish

Posted: 5/15/2013
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@blue sky

Good Luck
 
Nick

Posted: 5/16/2013
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@blue sky: There is no code to look at. Everything is done within Artisteer, that;s why I pronounced it as BRILLIANT! You can use an image for the site Title provided you follow either one of my two recommendations (workarounds). The beauty of Artisteer is that with little bit of imagination we can pretty much do what we want in record time - Bazish proved it with this example.

@Bazish: The Templateer is just like Artisteer. Excellent product overall, but bloated and slightly buggy. In either case I can work around the bugs, so I can live with them. Customer support for both are from non existent to simply awful. I actually stopped using the templateer about a month ago. My biggest interest was the bootstrap classes, and they only work on horizontal widget areas, so not on the sidebars, which I needed them the most! Both products are very good, fair pricing, but poorly managed, and poorly supported. - what a shame !
 
Bazish

Posted: 5/16/2013
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BTW. i never required to get a support from Artisteer or Templateer..

the best way to get things done is to dig deep in your self or get help from the guys who are active doing things like you.. rather to wait for hours and hours even days for the support persons to reply.

i agreed both products are GREAT.. Excellent reply to the Premium theme seller site's. just like you are doing elegantheme's design in artisteer. i am doing genesis theme's in artisteer to make them available free online soon.

is this a bad idea or good to be object oriented in some cases?
 
Nick

Posted: 5/16/2013
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The only times I have contacted support is to report bugs. Both products are easy to figure out, and even manuals are not needed for either of them. The support for Artisteer tries to stall and buy time, then they blame everybody else, and when pressed even further, proving that they are wrong, they get defensive and give non answer - answers. Just like politicians.

I contacted Templateer just once to report a bug in January, that was 4-5 months ago... I am still waiting for response. So he does respond to ALL emails, does not have a forum, and tries to even suppress free speech - at least according to richard.

http://www.artisteer.com/Default.aspx?post_id=215040&p=forum_post

BTW: Neither product is an adequate answer to the premium theme seller sites. The themes from those sites have many embedded plugins, like short codes for accordions, tabs, sliders, etc... The templateer added some short codes but are pretty much useless. Artisteer themes even templateer themes are only good for designing sites for our customers, we could never be able to sell them - we would not be able to compete...

I guess it would be a good idea to learn how to embed plugins in themes. Once we do, then we could compete with the likes of Elegant Themes, Theme Forest and the likes. Bud from templateer obviously knows how to embed plugins, but he has to choose more useful ones.

 
Nick

Posted: 5/16/2013
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Above should have said "So he does NOT respond to ALL emails,"
 
Bazish

Posted: 5/16/2013
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Both gives you a framework to build sites according to your requirements. i know it's case to case, some needed extra thing to be integrated into them..

for integrating plugins, you can view these links, it's not that hard to get them into your theme.
http://tgmpluginactivation.com/

http://wp.tutsplus.com/articles/intro-to-tgm-plugin-activation-class-for-wordpress/


for me both products are enough to get your theme sell. (it's the only theme seller's website who don't want theme generated with Artisteer to be represented on there site's) Why? i think you know the answer.

you have better solutions to the issues than me, so i regard your words...
 
Nick

Posted: 5/18/2013
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That's even better than embedding Bazish. Thank you very much, I will play with it.

Why is it better? When you embed a plugin into a theme, there is no way to update the plugins. God forbid if one of them has a security hole and needs to be upgraded, the only way would be for me to redo the theme and embed the updated plugin.

This method, the user with a few clicks can install all the required plugins, activate them, and in the future they can update them as well. We can create a theme just once, and move on, never worry about updating them to bring the embedded plugins to date. Simply brilliant, and thanks again.

Now, if you understood what I said, THAT is the angle to use not only to compete with the professional templating houses, but to create more desirable products for premium theme buyers compared to theirs. Let's see now if I can make this thing to work...
 
Bazish

Posted: 5/18/2013
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@Nick
Sharing is Caring...

Good Luck..
 
Nick

Posted: 5/20/2013
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Problem finally solved after a day of frustrating debugging.

The trick is NOT to include the code at the END of the functions.php file, but near the top after the initialization and declerations - just AFTER the favicon code:

function theme_favicon() {
if (is_file(TEMPLATEPATH . '/favicon.ico')):
?><link rel="shortcut icon" href="<?php bloginfo('template_directory'); ?>/favicon.ico" /><?php
endif;
}


@Bazish: I owe this one to you, so if you need help with the implementation of this, I would gladly make a video tutorial for you... If done properly, we can now truly compete with the premium themes, of the likes of Elegant Themes, Theme Forest, etc...

Again, this is to either notify the admin which plugins need to install, and have the links to install and activate them, either from a theme folder, the wordpress depository, or from anywhere from the internet. Furthermore, you can automate the whole process, by installing and activating all the required plugins when you activate the theme. If you choose this method, the plugins will be deleted if you change the theme. There are many advantages of using code, as oppose to embedding the required plugins in your theme.

Nobody else has commented on this topic yet, once you realize what this does, you will find it that this is huge - just like responsive design was to us last August!
 
Bazish

Posted: 5/20/2013
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@Nick
Good to know it's worked, i was trying everything at night to get it sorted out at night.. then left it..
now at morning, you saved my day by letting me know, how you solved it.

will be happy to see quick video, how to integrate though, it will also help others who are interested

Will give it try now after breakfast... :-)
 
Bazish

Posted: 5/20/2013
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Quote :
Nobody else has commented on this topic yet, once you realize what this does, you will find it that this is huge - just like responsive design was to us last August!


I think it's because topic reads..

How to convert this site to Artisteer?

you can create video, and write few lines under new topic

How to integrate Plugins into Artisteer theme?

that will be interesting for others..


 
Nick

Posted: 5/20/2013
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Yeah, maybe... I will be busy in the next 2 days, so on Thursday I'll post one, along with a sample theme with some plugins in it...
 
Bazish

Posted: 5/20/2013
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It's confirmed, adding code right after

function theme_favicon() {  if (is_file(TEMPLATEPATH . '/favicon.ico')):  ?><link rel="shortcut icon" href="<?php bloginfo('template_directory'); ?>/favicon.ico" /><?php  endif;  } 


will allow you to integrate required plugins into your theme with artisteer 4.1 created wordpress themes.

Great Work Nick... :-)
 
Abland

Posted: 5/21/2013
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Quote Bazish:
Great Work Nick... :-)


+1 :-)
 
Nick

Posted: 5/21/2013
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Thanks guys, actually I was email you Abland telling about this topic, and came here to get the url, and saw your posting. As I said before, I will prepare something on Thursday/Friday demoing this, along with some interesting things with Artisteer themes, and templateer themes.
 
Nick

Posted: 5/21/2013
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Above should be "emailing" !!!
 
blue sky

Posted: 5/21/2013
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Think you guys need to post this up as a separate topic as there will be many here that will greatly value your work. I really do not understand it but I would have concerns about embedding plugins direct into a theme but thats just my being ignorant!!
 
Nick

Posted: 5/30/2013
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That's the point of this code blue sky. The plugins are NOT embedded in the themes, but are semi-automatically or completely automatically installed in your WP site. You can recommend them, or require them. Look at the video posted by Bazish and you will understand what;s going on.
 
Allan

Posted: 6/2/2013
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Thanks Bazish and Nick this will help lots. Have you made the video yet? If you have where can I see it?
 
Nick

Posted: 6/3/2013
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Due to lack of interest I did not. Follow the video tutorial from abovem and follow my instructions where to put the code in Artisteer, to make it work. I have successfully used it with about 15 themes, both made by Artisteer and the Templateer.
 
Chas

Posted: 10/2/2013
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Hi Everyone,
I was happy to see the subject of converting wordpress site to Artisteer, I thought the subject is regarding converting wordpress template to Artisteer template so we import wordpress template into artisteer and create beautiful unique design with help of Artisteer. But was sad to see that the site was recreated in Artisteer.

Does anyone have idea regarding what change is required in the wordpress template file and how to add artisteer extension, so that we can import the template into Artisteer. I am sure this will help many people create beautiful unique design from a wordpress template, also reuse their existing wordpress template to create a unique template with help of Artisteer.

Looking forward to hear soon :-)
 
Bazish

Posted: 10/2/2013
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Unfortunately
right now (and possibly not in future) you can not import already exported WordPress theme into Artisteer and modify it further.

you can only import Artx file's into Artisteer not exported WordPress Themes.

Thanks
Bazish
 
Chas

Posted: 10/3/2013
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Hi,
Thanks for reply, i am not talking about the wordpress template which has been exported from Artisteer,, i am talking about a pre wordpress template, is there a way to convert wordpress template to Artisteer template?
 
Bazish

Posted: 10/3/2013
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Artisteer only import ARTX project file, it will not import templates exported from Artisteer or any other WordPress theme to Artisteer.


 
txjohn

Posted: 4/26/2014
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Quote Nick:

Due to lack of interest I did not. Follow the video tutorial from abovem and follow my instructions where to put the code in Artisteer, to make it work. I have successfully used it with about 15 themes, both made by Artisteer and the Templateer.



:-X :-X
If there was a video link posted above, it has been deleted by MODS evidently. Anyone want to send me a link or repost? Much thanks :-)
 
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