vlc
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Do any of the templates at http://www.artisteer.com/?p=affr&redirect_url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.artisteer.com%2f%3fp%3dfree_website_templates
have tableless layouts?
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vlc
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never mind, I think I found a tool to automagically convert tables to css.
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adobe
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what tool? please share.
Thanks
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Alex Wellings
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yep, those tools usually get the job done regarding tables (div's included);
HTML > CSS, but PHP > CSS is a bit trickier...
I'd also like to know what tool have you been using?
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Clippy
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Quote Alex Wellings:
yep, those tools usually get the job done regarding tables (div's included);
HTML > CSS, but PHP > CSS is a bit trickier...
I'd also like to know what tool have you been using?
What do you mean? The markup is the same, unless I'm missing what you're saying.
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Alex Wellings
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Hey Clippy,
No, I think you've got it right. I worked with one converter (author suggested to use it with .html documents, but it had an option for .php files, and preserve scripting) messing with artisteer's blog.php, man, what a nightmare. Those dumbass tables never converted right to div's, it was easy for <tr>, but <td> was screwed, and finally when I did it - half of it manually, I lost control over parameters in category blog layout, you know:
• leading
• links
• columns
• bla (if you select 3 columns, blog.php display's one (1)
So I've done something wrong, never figured out what, if you find out please inform me, I'd like to know!
If anyone finds a quick solution for easy convert tables in artisteer /html/ folder, please post!
I really don't get it, why don't they just remove the tables!
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Artisteer
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Hi,
We are working on Content Layout and Content Styling
that will automantically create DIV based Content structure.
Also Artisteer 3.1 HTML will be more simple without many nested DIVs in Sheet, Blocks, Footer and other elements.
All this should be available in Artisteer 3.1
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Michael
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All this should be available in Artisteer 3.1
WTF? When will that be? Artisteer 3.0 is still in RC... or what? 
-M
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AndriaD
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I suspect it might mean that they fixed the "memory issues," and that it was such a drastic fix that it deserved a whole new sub-version number. If that is true, hallelujah! But nice to know they're working on that tableless layout issue; I'm finally starting to get a sufficient handle on it to see the benefits of not using tables, easy as they are to code.
Gosh, I can't sit still, waiting for this release; I'm twitching with anticipation. 
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ccm001
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Mykee
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Quote Artisteer:
Hi,
We are working on Content Layout and Content Styling
that will automantically create DIV based Content structure.
Also Artisteer 3.1 HTML will be more simple without many nested DIVs in Sheet, Blocks, Footer and other elements.
All this should be available in Artisteer 3.1
Wow! This will be fantastic, if will release! Thanks!
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Database
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SO it is better to use divs for pulling data from a database then?
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Clippy
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Quote Database:
SO it is better to use divs for pulling data from a database then?
What do you mean?
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Look Like A Table
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Well if I'm supposed to only use divs in my designs. How can I make it so those divs look like a table when pulling info from a database file into a spreadsheet?
So I'll need a new div table 5 columns by 20 rows to pull in the data.
I could easily do this with tables, but I not supposed to be using tables. So how can I make all the divs format exactly like the table should look if I was using a table.
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STELIOS
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Quote Look Like A Table:
Well if I'm supposed to only use divs in my designs. How can I make it so those divs look like a table when pulling info from a database file into a spreadsheet?
So I'll need a new div table 5 columns by 20 rows to pull in the data.
I could easily do this with tables, but I not supposed to be using tables. So how can I make all the divs format exactly like the table should look if I was using a table.
You could check 960.gs
It is a CSS framework which makes your life with divs a whole lot easier!!!
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STELIOS
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Quote Look Like A Table:
Well if I'm supposed to only use divs in my designs. How can I make it so those divs look like a table when pulling info from a database file into a spreadsheet?
So I'll need a new div table 5 columns by 20 rows to pull in the data.
I could easily do this with tables, but I not supposed to be using tables. So how can I make all the divs format exactly like the table should look if I was using a table.
Well, the link is actually http://960.gs
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Clippy
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Quote Look Like A Table:
Well if I'm supposed to only use divs in my designs. How can I make it so those divs look like a table when pulling info from a database file into a spreadsheet?
So I'll need a new div table 5 columns by 20 rows to pull in the data.
I could easily do this with tables, but I not supposed to be using tables. So how can I make all the divs format exactly like the table should look if I was using a table.
Ummmmmmm, displaying tabular data would be a semantically valid use for an HTML table. Am I misunderstanding you? I don't see the issue.
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Creativis
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Quote Artisteer:
Hi,
We are working on Content Layout and Content Styling
that will automantically create DIV based Content structure.
Also Artisteer 3.1 HTML will be more simple without many nested DIVs in Sheet, Blocks, Footer and other elements.
All this should be available in Artisteer 3.1
Wonderful!! When? I cannot wait !!
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