There is a web editor with Artisteer function?


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Andrea

Posted: 1/20/2009
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I tried Dreamweaver and Expression disappointment that nothing works. There is a web editor with Artisteer function?
 
Marc Smith

Posted: 1/20/2009
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If you mean a web editor that supports full WYSIWYG editing, no, it doesn't exist.

HTMLPad and CoffeeCup are two good HTML editors that opn up the html files to edit them.

There are no easy ways to open a PHP file to edit it, see results in a preview, etc.


 
Herb200mph

Posted: 1/20/2009
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Net Objects Fusion 11 is a WYSIWYG webpage creation software prodect with a long history and high quality. NFO is a complete website creation program.

However NOF-11 isn't the same as Artisteer in that it creates in/for itself while Artisteer creats templates for other CMS programs and does not generate content, etc, like NOF.
 
herb200mph

Posted: 1/20/2009
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If you want a "K-A" html page creation product, look at XSitePro 2.

It has canned templates but creates a whole site.

If you know how to put in Joomla module positions, you could use that for creating a site also.
 
DaveLloyd

Posted: 1/20/2009
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If you use software like WAMPServer 2 - http://www.wampserver.com/en/, you can work on php files on your hard drive then open them in your browser to see the results.

Dave


 
Marc Smith

Posted: 1/20/2009
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Dave

While that is a good program, it won't work for Wordpress templates, since you need a working version of Wordpress installed and connected to a database. Without those two things, the theme files are useless as they all make calls to the Wordpress enginerand database.
 
DaveLloyd

Posted: 1/21/2009
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Quote Marc Smith:

Dave

While that is a good program, it won't work for Wordpress templates, since you need a working version of Wordpress installed and connected to a database. Without those two things, the theme files are useless as they all make calls to the Wordpress enginerand database.


Hi Mark,

Treat wamp just as you would treat your hosting account.

Install wordpress on Wamp and create a MySQL database for your blog, then proceed as normal.

Dave
 
DaveLloyd

Posted: 1/21/2009
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PS. To the above.

In the case of Joomla, install the latest version of Joomla on Wamp, and then create your database using phpMyAdmin, then go ahead with the installation of your site.

phpMyAdmin tends to install the database without a password, so it is a good idea to go in and create a password under 'permissions.'

When you want to upload your site to your server, you need to zip all your files, export the database, transfer files to your site, and import database.

Dave


 
DaveLloyd

Posted: 1/21/2009
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PS. to the PS above.

If you need a standalone server dedicated to just Joomla, you can use JSASOnline.com:
http://www.jsasonline.com/
Very similar to Wamp, but only supports Joomla, perhaps a little easier to use (perhaps).

I think it is still free, but if you want updates you need to become a charter member at $10.00 per month.

Dave

 
DaveLloyd

Posted: 1/21/2009
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Final PS.

I have a killer dose of flu at the moment so my brain is not in gear.

In the above posts, I said to install WP/Joomla, then create a database, obviously those posts were just outlines, and you should create the database first.

In the case of JSAS, what I should have said is that it comes preloaded with a Joomla installation, though I think you might have to be a charter member to be able to access the latest version of Joomla. I can't remember because I haven't used it for some time.

Dave
 
Marc Smith

Posted: 1/21/2009
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Dave,

Like I said, it's a great program. I kinda misspoke tho. You can edit in real time using WAMP, but for the novice user who wants to use Dreamweaver to edit the PHP files and change content, this isn't the route to go.

Much of the content is dynamic, comes from the DB and isn't readily editable 'on the fly'.

The ones who say "I just want to see it and edit it in a WYSIWYG editor, usually, aren't the ones who will run a WAMP or LAMP server
 
DaveLloyd

Posted: 1/21/2009
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Quote Marc Smith:

Dave,

Like I said, it's a great program. I kinda misspoke tho. You can edit in real time using WAMP, but for the novice user who wants to use Dreamweaver to edit the PHP files and change content, this isn't the route to go.

Much of the content is dynamic, comes from the DB and isn't readily editable 'on the fly'.

The ones who say "I just want to see it and edit it in a WYSIWYG editor, usually, aren't the ones who will run a WAMP or LAMP server


Hi Marc,

I take your point!

WYSIWYG It aint.

But having your favourite editor open, making changes to your PHP files, saving, and then previewing the changes in your browser (without the need of uploading) is about as good as it gets.

Dave
 
Dan E.

Posted: 1/21/2009
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I use Coda for Mac OS X to "live edit" my Wordpress PHP / CSS files right on the web server itself, of course much care must be taken by using this method, its not for the faint of heart. But essentially its similar to the MAMP / WAMP approach.
 
Mike

Posted: 2/17/2009
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There is a site called BitNami that has downloadable stacks for WordPress, Joomla, Drupal and many more that you can load and run on your desktop or laptop for testing. Stacks are available for windows, linux and mac. Check it out at http://bitnami.org/stacks.


 
ephra

Posted: 2/19/2009
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"WYSIWYG It aint."

O yes It is. 8-)

For people who won't/can't use WAMP/LAMP (like myself) and use Dreamweaver mostly in Design-mode (like I do) there is this neat extension: Themedreamer ( [url]http://www.themedreamer.com[/url] )
I got it running and it displays the WP-theme in one page and in WYSIWYG-mode. It's much easier customizing!

For DW-ers is also this way of further editing useful:

[url]http://www.justdreamweaver.com/blog/2008/05/customizing-wordpress-themes-with-dreamweaver/[/url]


 
Marc Smith

Posted: 2/19/2009
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Some important points from the Theme Dreamer website:
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TheamDreamer requires solid knowledge of HTML/CSS web design and Dreamweaver.

Please try before you buy! We do not offer refunds at this introductory price.

Boxed versions are not available. Download Only.

Please backup your theme files before editing.


The cost is $30(USD). I've not tested the product, as I don't use Dreamweaver at all, but if it does what they say it does, then it might be the solution for many who simply *have* to use Dreamweaver to manage their code

 
ephra

Posted: 2/20/2009
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Hi Marc,
yeah, it is important to have knowledge of css and html using Dreamweaver -that's what DW is about. But it can also be a great app for people who want to learn it by studing the code of what they see in design-view.

Here's a screenshot of just a WP-theme with themedreamer-extension:



One can learn the basic of the ectension on the site -there are some video-tuts.
I think it's a great tool in combination with photoshop/fireworks!
 
ephra

Posted: 2/20/2009
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linking does not work here -neither can I edit my post. I try again:


[url]http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q73/Eef68/Afbeelding9-1.png[/url]
 
Marc Smith

Posted: 2/20/2009
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Unfortunately, many people use Dreamweaver because they are too lazy to learn html and CSS, which is a problem in many forums, not just this one.

In any major company doing development, DW is a no-no as it's code is a huge headache when it comes to SEO and compatibility, but because it's put out by a major company, people think it *is* the standard.

I spend about a third of my time in redesign projects doing nothing but cleaning up DW code.
 
ephra

Posted: 2/21/2009
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With all kind of respect: I think that's even not possible: Dreamweaver forces you to learn html and css in the first place: otherwise you can't use and understand this advanced software at all -that's the same with Photoshop, Indesign, Illustrator, Fireworks or Flash: you have to learn before you can use it/ while you're using it. There's no other way. Being lazy is not an option using Adobes software. If one doesn't like that I would say: don't even bother of thinking trying/buying it! Just stick to cheaper apps which are many of like rapidweaver, webbuilder and so on.

In general I think it's impossible to build any quality or just a standard website without knowing html and css (and from that point generating clients and making money)
That's got nothing to do with Dreamweaver or whatever other software.
And also, take Artisteer; you have to learn how Wordpress and php works (like I'm doing now), -otherwise you won't come far.